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Los Altos Robotics Team Requirements for 2010

The page provides information for coaches on the requirements for participating in Los Altos Robotics FLL.

Participating in Los Altos Robotics FLL


Please read all of this page before registering your team.

Team Formation

Los Altos Robotics does not assign or place children on teams.  Parents and coaches are responsible for grouping children into a team, and then registering the team with Los Altos Robotics.  Parents and coaches can use the TigerBots and NCaFLL mailing lists to find teams or team members - there is more information about finding and forming teams below.   We also have "I Need a Team" registration for players who are NOT currently on a team.  Again, this information is below.  Be sure to come back and read all of this page if you choose to skip down to the More Ideas for Organizing and Starting a Team section.  Los Altos Robotics supports team formation by providing parents information about other participants at their child's school.  We also provide training and other resources for coaches.   We recommend that each team is made up of both a coach and a team manager. The coach should focus on coaching.   The team manager should deal with all team finances, registration, and scheduling.

We ask that all parents check with their children to make sure they want to be on a FIRST LEGO league team before signing them up.  It is clear to the coordinators that several of the children in past years have been less than enthusiastic about being on a team.  They end up playing with the LEGOs and detracting from the experience of those that are excited about being on a team.  Worse yet, they may prevent others from being on a team because we run out of space.  So please don't sign them up because it will be "a good experience" for them.  If they are excited about being on a team, we are excited about having them on a team.  You may also want to visit the frequently asked questions page.

Each parent and child should print out and complete the Los Altos Robotics player and parent contract. You need Adobe Acrobat to view this file. Coaches will typically collect these documents at the first team meeting. Coaches must also submit the Coaches' Promise at the scrimmage or tournament.

Expenses

The National FLL provides a sample team budget Note:

  • Generally, team fees are paid by the team manager up front and reimbursed by dividing the amount among the players.
  • The registration fee referenced in that budget refers to National FLL registration.
  • The local tournament fee ($50) is payable to NorcalFLL by October 1. It is very important that you pay your local fees and submit liability waivers to NorcalFLL by October 1, as this gives your team priority in the local tournament selection process.
  • Los Altos Robotics may have some tables available for sale for $40. If you would like one, contact us as soon as possible. The fee is payable at table delivery. You can build the table yourself as long as it complies with FLL specificiations. The National FLL provides plans and instructions for building a table yourself. Your team can potentially share a table with another team if the teams meet at the same location at different times.
  • If your team advances to a regional tournament (December) or the Northern California Championship Tournament (January), then there are additional fees. In 2009, they were $75 per event.
  • Your team needs one or more Mindstorms kits to participate, but you don't have to use the kit sold by National FLL. If a team member already has an RCX or NXT set, that's fine to get started with. The kit sold by National FLL has some extra sensors and pieces, but you can buy these on the Internet as needed.(e.g. www.bricklink.com) As of the 2008-09 season, Los Altos Robotics is discontinuing its kit leasing program.
  • The "Other Expense" listed at the bottom of the budget refer to supplies needed for the Challenge research project and for conducting team meetings. $20 per team member is a reasonable estimate.

Registrations

Registrations are limited at the national and Los Altos level, therefore, register as soon as you know that you are going to have a team. You don't have to have your team roster finalized.

1. The team must register with the national FLL organization The registration fee is paid at the time of registration. We recommend registering in early-mid August so that you receive the Field Setup Kit by early September. If you have not registered by Sept. 15, you are likely to miss the season because you will not receive your Field Setup Kit in time or because the available National FLL team slots are filled.

2. You must follow the "2010 Qualifying Tournament Registration Instructions" at NorcalFLL . The NorcalFLL organization has the final say on what Qualifying Tournament you attend. Depending on how many teams from Los Altos participate in FLL, there may not be space at the Los Altos tournament for all Los Altos teams. Be sure to send in your liability waivers and local tournament registration fee by October 1 in order to have the best chance of attending your preferred local tournament. NorcalFLL maintains a list of qualifying tournaments and a report of team status.

3. The team must register with Los Altos Robotics. Registration does not guarantee a place at the LAR tournament in November. (If you want to fix this, contact us, and offer to help organize an additional tournament.) Watch the TigerBots email list for additional updates and instructions.

Event Support

In order to put on the October scrimmage and the November tournament, Los Altos Robotics needs support from each team.

1. All teams participating in the scrimmage or the November tournament are expected to provide one worker for each event. There are a variety of positions available to suit different time schedules and interests. Most require only a couple hours of time. They're easy, they're kind of fun, and they directly contribute to the kids' enjoyment of the event. See the Los Altos Robotics Team Volunteer Roles page for more information on these volunteer positions. Indicate your position preferences on the team registration form.

2. All teams are expected to provide a table and Field Setup Kit for one of the two events. Los Altos Robotics can provide transportation help. Indicate your event preference on the team registration form.

Your support is as important as your registration fee in enabling Los Altos Robotics to conduct the scrimmage and the tournament. Los Altos Robotics reserves the right to deny participation at either the scrimmage or the tournament to a team that has not provided support for that event.

More Ideas for Organizing and Starting a Team


Do you have any more specific ideas to help our child be on a team this season?

  • First of all, you are not alone! Many parents trying to form a team are going through the same confusion. Most of us have had experience with youth sports, like AYSO soccer, and are used to having teams formed by the league. Most first year coaches have the same confusion. While it is a little more work to form a team for robotics, there are some big upsides. You have the choice of players which means they can participate with friends. The teams are much smaller and more manageable. Here are some things I can think of to help form a team:
    1. Ask your kids the names of their 3 best friends. Call the parents of each and see if they want to do robotics.
    2. Ask your kids who in their class likes science. Call those parents.
    3. Sign up to be a coach! Seriously, finding coaches is harder than finding players. If you really want to make sure they are on a team, be their coach. The whole philosophy of LEGO Robotics is to let the kids do the work. You don’t need to be an engineer to coach, and there is lots of guidance and support available from the National FLL and Los Altos FLL. Just be willing to spend some time with the team, help with organization, and have lots of positive energy.
    4. Use your mailing lists… past sports teams, other activities like dance, music, scouts… you probably have the e-mail address of 100 kids in all those messages. Send out a short message letting everyone know you are interested in forming a team.
    5. Split the coaching job. Often busy lives or travel schedules prevent people from volunteering to coach. Find another parent and offer to split the duty. Another way to split the job is to have one parent host the meetings and another coach.
    6. Come to the parent meeting Tuesday September 2nd, 2008 at 7:30 at Oak Avenue School. You may find other parents without a team there.
    7. Post a message to the TigerBots Email List (see sign up information below). This list is used for all Los Altos Robotics announcements.
      • If post to the TigerBots email list looking for a team, it is helpful to include Name, age, grade, school, phone#, and how you are willing to help without with running a team. Here is an example:

        Subject: Loyola School 5th grade boy looking for a team

        My son, John, wants to be on an FLL team this season. He plays with LEGOs all of the time and is really looking forward to being on a team. I am willing to help out with the team in anyway that I can. I don't have any experience but am willing to learn and lend a helping hand. (Or something like: I am willing to be the coach if one is needed or help out in anyway that is needed.) My son plays soccer so meeting on Friday afternoons after school or dinner and Sunday after lunch would work best for us as far as meeting times. Please call me at home at 965-xxxx, at work at 408-328-xxxx, or on my cell phone at 303-xxxx or send email to me at user@mydomain.com.

      • It is very helpful if at least one person from each family involved in FLL in the Los Altos area joins the Los Altos Robotics TigerBots yahoogroups.com email list. You can find out more about the list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TigerBots. Your email address will be kept private and not distributed outside of Los Altos Robotics board and coaches. To subscribe, simply send email to: TigerBots-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. If you decide to unsubscribe, email: TigerBots-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    8. The "I Need a Team" Registration is For Players Who Are NOT Currently on a Team.  If you submit an "I Need a Team" registration, we will share your information with others that register and their information with you.  We will also share it with local area coaches.  We also suggest that you post to the TigerBots email list to increase your odds of your child being on a team.

        Until September 22, 2010, we are accepting player "I Need a Team List" registration at the following location:

        After September 5th, you may continue to register, however, many teams will have filled up by then and you may need to form a new one.

        You should print out and have you and your child complete the Los Altos Robotics player and parent contract. You need Adobe Acrobat to view this file. Coaches will typically collect these documents at the first team meeting.

        Since the player is not on a team, specify team preference information if any. Leave the team name and coaches name blank. NOTE: Los Altos Robotics does NOT assign players to teams. You will still need to find a team or form one.

        Teams will collect between $120 - $180 per player to cover expenses such as purchasing the Challenge Kit and leasing a robotics set for your player to use during the season. Refer to team registration below for more details about team expenses. Los Altos Robotics DOES NOT collect player registration fees. Instead, teams pay LAR a team fee. Typically, a team will collect $125 up front and then collect any additional money after the season expenses are finalized.  

        Registration does NOT guarantee that your child will be on a robotics team: Unfortunately, every year there are players who have to be turned away because they cannot find a team to be on. The limiting factor is finding a coach for the team. Los Altos Robotics is working hard to make it as easy as possible for coaches. Volunteers built playing fields for coaches, lease out robotics kits, and provide excellent coaches training. We also can have mentors attend meetings to help players resolve issues and do planning. For more information on forming teams, please read here.

        Registration Agreement: All team members are expected to help design, build, and program the robot. Team members can specialize or work on a variety of these tasks. In order to be an effective team, members who are disruptive or disrespectful inside or outside of the team meetings will be warned and then removed from the team. The coach will have final say in who is accepted, removed or kept on the team. Team members removed will not be reimbursed fees.

        Parent Participation: When filling out the registration, you should specify if you have interest in any of the following roles: Team Coach(1), Assistant Coach(1-2), Team Manager(1), Practice Session Host (provide a large room for the team meetings).

        Also, every team will be required to provide one or more volunteers for the scrimmage and local tournament. Click here for Tournament Volunteer roles.

        We ask that all parents check with their children to make sure they want to be on a FIRST LEGO league team before signing them up.  It is clear to the coordinators that several of the children in past years have been less than enthusiastic about being on a team.  They end up playing with the LEGOs and detracting from the experience of those that are excited about being on a team.  Worse yet, they may prevent others from being on a team because we run out of space.  So please don't sign them up because it will be "a good experience" for them.  If they are excited about being on a team, we are excited about having them on a team.  So if you are still interested, please read the rest of this message and send the information requested below. You may also want to visit the frequently asked questions page.

Good luck. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me.

Michael Schuh MichaelTransparent Blue "at" sign for use in emails.LosAltosRobotics.Org, (650) 965-8037 (Home), or (650) 604-1460 (Work)


Los Altos FIRST LEGO League Homepage.

Changes Log:

07 Sep 2010 Updated for LAR registration to use Google Docs form for 2010 season. Lordemann
27 Aug '08 Updated for '08 season. Murray & Schuh
29 Aug '06 Updated it some for '06 season.
21 Aug '04 Clean it up and clarified some text.
26 Aug '03 First cut.

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